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America the Bigoted

Posted by PintofStout on March 14, 2006

I received the following email as a forward and was too incensed to let it pass without comment.  I only responded to a forwarded email once before, on similar grounds, but this particular one elicited a response simply because of who sent it.  It is my sincerest hope that I could shed some light or change a mind in this case.  My response will follow the original email.

Subject: Muslim Americans
Have you ever thought — Can a devout Muslim

be an American patriot and a loyal citizen?  Is Muslim American really an oxymoron?  Consider this:

Theologically, no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia.

Religiously, no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)

Scripturally, no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Koran).

Geographically, no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially, no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically, no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.

Domestically, no, because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).

Intellectually, no, because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically, no, because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression.  Democracy and Islam cannot co – exist.  Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually, no, because when we declare “one nation under God,” the Christian’s God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran’s 99 excellent names.

Therefore after much study and deliberation….perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country.  They obviously cannot be both “good” Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish…it’s still the truth.

If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above statements, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future.  Pass it on Fellow Americans……

That is what I received to start my week last week.  I wrote a response while looking through a lens of a very tense and frantic despair.  I didn’t want this idea to make it any further or live any longer.  A week later, I am going to clean it up (my spelling and typing went a little south in my rush) and possibly add cited resources for a more intellectual argument to bulwark the purely emotional one I used originally.

Did you send this to me just to elicit a response?  I really, really hope you don’t buy into this driveling propaganda.  You can’t conduct a war, holy war or a genocide without dehumanizing the enemy.  Have you ever thought about what our country is based on, and why even people who write garbage like this can be Americans, too?

I continued point by point:

Theologically, no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia.

And this has something to do with being an American how?  As Americans we own our loyalty to no one. Some choose to give it to God or the Pope or, oh my, Allah.

Religiously, no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)

Whoever wrote this really needs to buy a thesaurus.  Theologically and religiously are the same freakin’ things.  I’d like to be shown a scripture in the Christian Bible to refute every scripture I can find that is similar to the one quoted above from the Quran.  What’s the First Commandment?  Thou Shalt Have No Other Gods Before Me?  And, again, if there is a freedom to practice the religion of your choosing, I don’t see how actually practicing a religion is Un-American.

I can add now Exodus 22:20, “Whoever sacrifices to any other god than the LORD must be destroyed.”  Deuteronomy 13 and Deuteronomy 17:1-7 are of the same vein;  it is either their god or death. (These verses are of the NIV from Biblegateway.com.)

Scripturally, no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Koran).

This is getting ridiculous.  See what I wrote for the previous two.

I’ll add to this that some religions live by the ten commandments (Exodus 20) or the “golden rule” or by what some guy with a big hat says.

Geographically, no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

This seems to be becoming all about allegiance.  Well, Americans aren’t required to have allegiance to anyone or anyplace; that’s what freedom and individuality is all about.  We don’t hate on Catholics because they are supposed to hold allegiance to the Vatican.  The author here is thus far the biggest violator of American principals (as they are held ideally) if there can be such a violation.

Where are Americans’ allegiance supposed to lie?  Depending on who you ask, it may be a flag, or the President , or the whole of Washington.  If you ask me, which nobody has, I’d tell you to start naval-gazing and have allegiance to yourself first and the personal relationships with your family and friends next, after that no one.

Socially, no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews. 

Because we have to be friends with people?  Regardless of what the Quran says, Muslims are friends with other religions all the time.  If we judged other religions by their scripture, all would be condemned (and are anyway, in my opinion).

Because being forbidden to make friends is worse than destroying them.  This rant hardly smacks of an olive branch, eh?

Politically, no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.

Right, if you don’t submit to the Republicrat parties, you’re obviously a freedom-hating terrorist.  Add me to that list, then.  Not all mullahs teach the destruction of America, who is a great Satan, by the way.  If Muslims were manipulating our government, bombing our cities, an imprisoning our citizens for decades for the profit of their rich friends, we’d be rather pissed, too.

The mullahs are no different than the preachers and Christian spiritual leaders who preach to support our troops in the rape, torture and murder of an entire region, or who may be construed by some to be calling for the bombing and destruction of doctors and nurses who perform abortions.

Domestically, no, because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).

While we’re digging out incriminating scripture that doesn’t fit with our modern societal views, let’s dig into the Bible and see how many times it tells the husband to discipline the wife or child.  Let’s see when the “good book” tells the wife to submit to her husband, or how many times the husband had multiple concubines.  It’s really not a surprise that these texts were all written by power-hungry men, right?  By the criteria mentioned in this line, we’d eliminate at least half of the “Americans” the author wants to exclude the muslims from.

The author aught to really enjoy I Corinthians 11:3-12 where Paul is explaining why women must keep their heads covered.

Intellectually, no, because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

This is where it starts to get deep.  If being American involves intellect, especially the intellect of this dim-wit, then America is nearly devoid of Americans.  The Constitution is, in fact, based on Enlightenment principals which were often quite hostile to religious views.  Our government today – or ever – can’t accept the Constitution because it limits their power.  What if I said I couldn’t accept the Constitution on any grounds, real or imagined, and I couldn’t and wouldn’t accept the Bible as anything more than a book of stories loosely (very loosely) based on fact (as is most any religious text).  I guess I can’t be a part of this person’s cadre of bigoted, dim-witted, hypocritical ‘mericans then.

This is a long-running argument that hurts my head to get into again.  Sure, many of the people who were the originators of the country, besides the Native Americans, which is another story, were of the judeo-christian faith.  These people also believed in witches, their women were severely oppressed, some held other human beings as slaves, and they all but wiped out an entire race of people.  (The Native Americans should probably be called several Nations of people, rather than be lumped into one big race.)  Really, if this is what our country is founded on, we have surely lost track so far as to have the origins not really matter.  But for argument’s sake I’ll quote L. Neil Smith: “You can’t reason someone out of something they weren’t reasoned into.”

Philosophically, no, because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and _expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co – exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Is Islam a philosophy?  Yes.  Is it different than the author’s?  Yes.  Does either align with the perceived philosophy of a free nation?  Islam might slightly, as does the author’s only because the perceived philosophy of our free country allows freedom of expression.  While the author claims that Islam can’t be the same philosophically as American philosophy because they don’t “allow freedom of religion and _expression,” this person is not allowing or proposing not to allow the expression of a religion.

The above simply states that it must be better to believe each individual has control over the beast of their own government rather than not hold any illusions at all.  Any government, especially based on a religion, will eventually be autocratic.  It happened in American starting with the Whiskey Rebellion, as far as I can recollect.  Also, do we not have muslims in America?  Are we not perceived to be a Democracy?  Does that mean one or the other – Democracy or Islam – doesn’t exist here?

Spiritually, no, because when we declare “one nation under God,” the Christian’s God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran’s 99 excellent names.

Correction, some people declare “one nation under god.”  I’d appreciate if the author would quit being a tyrant and let me express myself.  There are many more examples in history of the Christian’s God being vengeful and violent than can be found to be the opposite.  In fact, most of the “loving God” stuff is just rhetoric and can’t be based in fact [as if any of it can].  And, neither Allah nor the Christian God is ever referred to as the Flying Spaghetti Monster in their respective texts, so they must not be legitimate.

I was just getting silly here.  Even in light of the author’s other arguments this one is just ridiculous.

The entire concept espoused in this email must be head-off before it permeates too far into the collective psyche.  It is nothing more than blatant racism and hate.  Perhaps it is spawned from fear, like other instances of racism, or perhaps it is just ignorance.  Regardless, the people who we should fear are the ones that purport to have our best interests in mind while further enslaving us.  It’s your own government you should fear and be suspicious of.

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3 Responses to “America the Bigoted”

  1. While I don’t agree with the person who sent the email because it creates generalities and pigeon-holes an entire religion – I can’t say I agree with you either.

    Because indeed, as an American you do owe your allegiance to your country. Read the pledge of allegience, read any oath of office, read any military oath and this will be abundantly clear. As they say, freedom isn’t free. You don’t just get it cuz you happen to live here. You have it because there are people who insure you have it every day, sometimes by giving their own lives. This country is called the United States for a reason. Probably because we have nifty little documents like the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence. Those documents are the spine upon which this country is built.

    Yes, you can complain about the government or in fact, everything that goes on in this country – because somebody is protecting your right to do so. Not because you happen to be sitting on a particular landmass.

    So, agree with some of what you said – it benefits no one to try to create fear but you can’t deny that people are afraid to some degree. When you see pictures of riots, beheadings, and mayhem it does give you pause.

    And I also take exception to calling this racism – it isnt’ racism as Muslims are not a race, they are religious adherents. You could call it religious bigotry – but not racism.

    And I’m wondering too, if you fear your government so much, how is it you feel fearless about putting it and your criticism of same,in writing on the internet? We both know there won’t be anyone knocking on your door because of your political speech, since that is a protected right in this country. However, if you lived in any Arabaic country I doubt you could have the same confidence.
    WC

  2. You forgot “If you don’t like it you can leave.”

  3. Americathebeautiful said

    Does the guy who wrote that email own a slave? Better question: Does he have a mullet?

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